diff --git a/py/code/excinfo.py b/py/code/excinfo.py
index edd30fece..d38735a7b 100644
--- a/py/code/excinfo.py
+++ b/py/code/excinfo.py
@@ -96,10 +96,10 @@ class FormattedExcinfo(object):
 
     def _getentrysource(self, entry):
         source = entry.getsource()
-        if source is None:
-            source = py.code.Source("???")
-        return source.deindent()
-
+        if source is not None:
+            source = source.deindent()
+        return source
+    
     def _saferepr(self, obj):
         return safe_repr._repr(obj)
 
@@ -166,7 +166,11 @@ class FormattedExcinfo(object):
     def repr_traceback_entry(self, entry, excinfo=None):
         # excinfo is not None if this is the last tb entry 
         source = self._getentrysource(entry)
-        line_index = entry.lineno - entry.getfirstlinesource()
+        if source is None:
+            source = py.code.Source("???")
+            line_index = 0
+        else:
+            line_index = entry.lineno - entry.getfirstlinesource()
 
         lines = []
         if self.style == "long":
diff --git a/py/code/testing/test_excinfo.py b/py/code/testing/test_excinfo.py
index bed7dcb52..349f6fa82 100644
--- a/py/code/testing/test_excinfo.py
+++ b/py/code/testing/test_excinfo.py
@@ -305,6 +305,65 @@ class TestFormattedExcinfo:
         repr = pr.repr_excinfo(excinfo)
         assert repr.reprtraceback.reprentries[1].lines[0] == ">   ???"
 
+    def test_repr_many_line_source_not_existing(self):
+        pr = FormattedExcinfo()
+        co = compile("""
+a = 1        
+raise ValueError()
+""", "", "exec")
+        try:
+            exec co 
+        except ValueError:
+            excinfo = py.code.ExceptionInfo()
+        repr = pr.repr_excinfo(excinfo)
+        assert repr.reprtraceback.reprentries[1].lines[0] == ">   ???"
+
+    def test_repr_source_failing_fullsource(self):
+        pr = FormattedExcinfo()
+
+        class FakeCode(object):
+            path = '?'
+            firstlineno = 5
+
+            @property
+            def fullsource(self):
+                raise fail
+
+        class FakeFrame(object):
+            code = FakeCode()
+            f_locals = {}
+
+        class FakeTracebackEntry(py.code.Traceback.Entry):
+            def __init__(self, tb):
+                self.frame = FakeFrame()
+                self.lineno = 5+3
+
+        class Traceback(py.code.Traceback):
+            Entry = FakeTracebackEntry
+
+        class FakeExcinfo(py.code.ExceptionInfo):
+            typename = "Foo"
+            def __init__(self):
+                pass
+            
+            def exconly(self, tryshort):
+                return "EXC"
+
+        excinfo = FakeExcinfo()
+        class FakeRawTB(object):
+            tb_next = None
+        tb = FakeRawTB()
+        excinfo.traceback = Traceback(tb)
+
+        fail = IOError()
+        repr = pr.repr_excinfo(excinfo)
+        assert repr.reprtraceback.reprentries[0].lines[0] == ">   ???"
+
+        fail = py.error.ENOENT
+        repr = pr.repr_excinfo(excinfo)
+        assert repr.reprtraceback.reprentries[0].lines[0] == ">   ???"        
+        
+
     def test_repr_local(self):
         p = FormattedExcinfo(showlocals=True)
         loc = {'y': 5, 'z': 7, 'x': 3, '__builtins__': __builtins__}
@@ -581,4 +640,3 @@ class TestFormattedExcinfo:
                               'tbfilter': tbfilter
                         }
                         yield kw
-            
diff --git a/py/code/traceback2.py b/py/code/traceback2.py
index bf901162f..35a3e084d 100644
--- a/py/code/traceback2.py
+++ b/py/code/traceback2.py
@@ -50,8 +50,11 @@ class TracebackEntry(object):
         return self.frame.code.firstlineno
 
     def getsource(self): 
-        """ return failing source code. """ 
-        source = self.frame.code.fullsource
+        """ return failing source code. """
+        try:
+            source = self.frame.code.fullsource
+        except (IOError, py.error.ENOENT):
+            return None
         if source is None:
             try:
                 sourcelines, lineno = py.std.inspect.findsource(self.frame.code.raw)